Comments on: Cisco wins FCoE Pre-Season and Primaries – Now for the Main Event! http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147 Greg Schulz of the StorageIO Group (www.storageio.com) blog and "The Green and Virtual Data Center" (Auerbach) Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: StorageIOblog » Blog Archive » Could Huawei buy Brocade? http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-1293 StorageIOblog » Blog Archive » Could Huawei buy Brocade? Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:25:27 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-1293 [...] has a diverse product portfolio for Fibre Channel, Ethernet along with the emerging Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE) market and a whos who of OEM and channel partners. Why not be for sale, good timing for investors, [...] [...] has a diverse product portfolio for Fibre Channel, Ethernet along with the emerging Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE) market and a whos who of OEM and channel partners. Why not be for sale, good timing for investors, [...]

]]> By: StorageIOblog » Blog Archive » I/O, I/O, Its off to Virtual Work and VMworld I Go (or went) http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-1184 StorageIOblog » Blog Archive » I/O, I/O, Its off to Virtual Work and VMworld I Go (or went) Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:21:43 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-1184 [...] Links to some IOV, VIO and I/O networking convergence pieces among others, as well as news coverage, comments and interviews can be found here and here with StorageIOblog posts that may be of interest found here and here. [...] [...] Links to some IOV, VIO and I/O networking convergence pieces among others, as well as news coverage, comments and interviews can be found here and here with StorageIOblog posts that may be of interest found here and here. [...]

]]> By: Greg Schulz http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-382 Greg Schulz Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:07:41 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-382 The folks over at OnPath Technologies (www.onpathtech.com)have put up a new forum covering data center connectivity and management topics. Check it out at http://thedatacenterthinktank.com Cheers gs The folks over at OnPath Technologies (www.onpathtech.com)have put up a new forum covering data center connectivity and management topics. Check it out at http://thedatacenterthinktank.com

Cheers
gs

]]> By: Greg Schulz http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-1890 Greg Schulz Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:07:00 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-1890 The folks over at OnPath Technologies (www.onpathtech.com)have put up a new forum covering data center connectivity and management topics. Check it out at http://thedatacenterthinktank.com Cheers gs The folks over at OnPath Technologies (www.onpathtech.com)have put up a new forum covering data center connectivity and management topics. Check it out at http://thedatacenterthinktank.com

Cheers
gs

]]> By: Greg Schulz http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-377 Greg Schulz Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:00:44 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-377 Steve nice post, what's interesting is that for some that are now waving the iSCSI flag is dead at the hands of FCoE were in the past waving the flag that Fibre Channel (FC) was dead at the hands of iSCSI, how ironic. Anyways, it makes for good press coverage and discussion however. So here's the thing, sure iSCSI will continue to move up market, likewise FC will move a bit more down market, however both can only move so far up or down without tripping on their own value propositions. Similarly, FCoE can not go down market where the low cost value proposition of iSCSI wins when no extra hardware is needed as FCoE will be a premium product for the forseable feature. Having said that, Im sure there will be those who will want to position FCoE as an iSCSI killer, just like there will be those who want to position iSCSI as the combined slayer of FC and FCoE, ok, fine, to each their own. The thing is, if you are an iSCSI fan (and I think that there are some great uses and oppourtunities for it) and see or feel threatened by FCoE, you might want to turn around and watch your flank as FCoE or even FC are not the enemy, SAS or even wireless USB at the very low end of the SOHO and SMB markets as well as NAS from the SOHO to the SMB up into the enterprise are the real threats when it comes to low-end, low-cost, easy to use and deploy. For the time being, there is plenty of market expansion capabilties for iSCSI centric vendors particularly those who can play to the low cost value prop of iSCSI where extra high performance and costly hardware is not needed. So with all of the FCoE noise this week, I suspect that for the next couple of weeks now we will return to our regular programming of how iSCSI has finally killed of not only FC, but also how iSCSI is the solution while FCoE is still in incubation mode, oh well, it is the fall and it is the 2008 version of storage in an election year. I wonder where "Uncle Ted" weighs in on this? http://www.tednugent.com/ Cheers gs Steve nice post, what’s interesting is that for some that are now waving the iSCSI flag is dead at the hands of FCoE were in the past waving the flag that Fibre Channel (FC) was dead at the hands of iSCSI, how ironic.

Anyways, it makes for good press coverage and discussion however. So here’s the thing, sure iSCSI will continue to move up market, likewise FC will move a bit more down market, however both can only move so far up or down without tripping on their own value propositions.

Similarly, FCoE can not go down market where the low cost value proposition of iSCSI wins when no extra hardware is needed as FCoE will be a premium product for the forseable feature. Having said that, Im sure there will be those who will want to position FCoE as an iSCSI killer, just like there will be those who want to position iSCSI as the combined slayer of FC and FCoE, ok, fine, to each their own.

The thing is, if you are an iSCSI fan (and I think that there are some great uses and oppourtunities for it) and see or feel threatened by FCoE, you might want to turn around and watch your flank as FCoE or even FC are not the enemy, SAS or even wireless USB at the very low end of the SOHO and SMB markets as well as NAS from the SOHO to the SMB up into the enterprise are the real threats when it comes to low-end, low-cost, easy to use and deploy.

For the time being, there is plenty of market expansion capabilties for iSCSI centric vendors particularly those who can play to the low cost value prop of iSCSI where extra high performance and costly hardware is not needed.

So with all of the FCoE noise this week, I suspect that for the next couple of weeks now we will return to our regular programming of how iSCSI has finally killed of not only FC, but also how iSCSI is the solution while FCoE is still in incubation mode, oh well, it is the fall and it is the 2008 version of storage in an election year.

I wonder where “Uncle Ted” weighs in on this?
http://www.tednugent.com/

Cheers
gs

]]> By: Greg Schulz http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-1889 Greg Schulz Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:00:00 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-1889 Steve nice post, what's interesting is that for some that are now waving the iSCSI flag is dead at the hands of FCoE were in the past waving the flag that Fibre Channel (FC) was dead at the hands of iSCSI, how ironic. Anyways, it makes for good press coverage and discussion however. So here's the thing, sure iSCSI will continue to move up market, likewise FC will move a bit more down market, however both can only move so far up or down without tripping on their own value propositions. Similarly, FCoE can not go down market where the low cost value proposition of iSCSI wins when no extra hardware is needed as FCoE will be a premium product for the forseable feature. Having said that, Im sure there will be those who will want to position FCoE as an iSCSI killer, just like there will be those who want to position iSCSI as the combined slayer of FC and FCoE, ok, fine, to each their own. The thing is, if you are an iSCSI fan (and I think that there are some great uses and oppourtunities for it) and see or feel threatened by FCoE, you might want to turn around and watch your flank as FCoE or even FC are not the enemy, SAS or even wireless USB at the very low end of the SOHO and SMB markets as well as NAS from the SOHO to the SMB up into the enterprise are the real threats when it comes to low-end, low-cost, easy to use and deploy. For the time being, there is plenty of market expansion capabilties for iSCSI centric vendors particularly those who can play to the low cost value prop of iSCSI where extra high performance and costly hardware is not needed. So with all of the FCoE noise this week, I suspect that for the next couple of weeks now we will return to our regular programming of how iSCSI has finally killed of not only FC, but also how iSCSI is the solution while FCoE is still in incubation mode, oh well, it is the fall and it is the 2008 version of storage in an election year. I wonder where "Uncle Ted" weighs in on this? http://www.tednugent.com/ Cheers gs Steve nice post, what’s interesting is that for some that are now waving the iSCSI flag is dead at the hands of FCoE were in the past waving the flag that Fibre Channel (FC) was dead at the hands of iSCSI, how ironic.

Anyways, it makes for good press coverage and discussion however. So here’s the thing, sure iSCSI will continue to move up market, likewise FC will move a bit more down market, however both can only move so far up or down without tripping on their own value propositions.

Similarly, FCoE can not go down market where the low cost value proposition of iSCSI wins when no extra hardware is needed as FCoE will be a premium product for the forseable feature. Having said that, Im sure there will be those who will want to position FCoE as an iSCSI killer, just like there will be those who want to position iSCSI as the combined slayer of FC and FCoE, ok, fine, to each their own.

The thing is, if you are an iSCSI fan (and I think that there are some great uses and oppourtunities for it) and see or feel threatened by FCoE, you might want to turn around and watch your flank as FCoE or even FC are not the enemy, SAS or even wireless USB at the very low end of the SOHO and SMB markets as well as NAS from the SOHO to the SMB up into the enterprise are the real threats when it comes to low-end, low-cost, easy to use and deploy.

For the time being, there is plenty of market expansion capabilties for iSCSI centric vendors particularly those who can play to the low cost value prop of iSCSI where extra high performance and costly hardware is not needed.

So with all of the FCoE noise this week, I suspect that for the next couple of weeks now we will return to our regular programming of how iSCSI has finally killed of not only FC, but also how iSCSI is the solution while FCoE is still in incubation mode, oh well, it is the fall and it is the 2008 version of storage in an election year.

I wonder where “Uncle Ted” weighs in on this?
http://www.tednugent.com/

Cheers
gs

]]> By: Is the FCoE Starting Pistol Aimed at iSCSI? - Stephen Foskett, Pack Rat http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147&cpage=1#comment-376 Is the FCoE Starting Pistol Aimed at iSCSI? - Stephen Foskett, Pack Rat Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:37:00 +0000 http://storageio.com/blog/?p=147#comment-376 [...] it hasn’t done for years. iSCSI deployments are accelerating, growing the whole market. Sure, FCoE will probably completely replace old-school Fibre Channel over the next five years. But it will have to share the market with the now well-established iSCSI. [...] [...] it hasn’t done for years. iSCSI deployments are accelerating, growing the whole market. Sure, FCoE will probably completely replace old-school Fibre Channel over the next five years. But it will have to share the market with the now well-established iSCSI. [...]

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